Saturday, 6 August 2011
Evil Racist Breivik
The enemy within. Billions are spent in wars abroad whilst the real danger resides in our midst as our own online bigots encouraged Breivik to carry out this massacre on its own people its about time that these racist bigots should be classed as terrorists. Is not enough to show contempt for these evil xenophobes, they have to be starved of excuses and of anecdotes, to stop them feeding their twisted bigotry to others by closing down their organizations and stop them from operating. Anyone with a modicum of biology would know that these people who fool themselves about inbred racial purity doesn't make biological or cultural sense, its only an ignorant delusion. Inbred racial purity in real terms only brings haemophilia, stunted growth, premature aging, stupidity and a much shorter span of life. It has been proven. They also cannot accept that as an enterprising, roaming and colonising nation, we are all a mongrel people with a mixture of Saxon, Viking, Celt, Roman, Greek, Norman, Arab, African, Indian etc. our blood is a cocktail. Racists fail to see that this is a source of strength and interest, not weakness and dilution. They don't know that the very language in which they rant, is a tapestry of borrowings from incomers, from the moment they drink their morning tea or coffee in pyjamas, to the last cup of cocoa under their duvet.The next thing we see, is one of the BNP chiefs Chris Hurst giving a Nazi salute crying: "Seig heil" to Breivik's heroine, a Swedish pop singer who goes by the name of Saga and who sang the Norwegian fiend's favourite songs at a rally in Hungary. Chris Hurst also spouted racist bile to an undercover reporter from the Sun who infiltrated the hate-filled festival attended by thousands of neo-Nazis from across Europe after the massacre in Norway. Chris Hurst, the far-right party's London Regional Secretary gave a chilling verdict on the massacre committed by the Norwegian madman Anders Breivik. He said: "Its good to fight back- but not by killing young white people"
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Hi Maria
I think that "race" is a more or less useless word. It is true that certain populations tend to have certain characteristics, but this is so within countries too, e.g. there are certain kinds of face that one can call Lancashire, east London etc.
I think the most ethnically homeogeneous society was recently declared to be the Chinese. But I don't think there's any point in declaring them to be a race as distinct from, say, the Thais or the Cambodians.
China is like every other country which has regions that are culturally different from each other but these are also part of China. When I went to see a wonderful exhibition patrocinated by the Chinese government where they showed
that around the 1870's there were more than 300 different cultures within China and the Emperor send an emisary to record their folklore, attire, music, clothes, dances, food and some facial characteristics too, all nicely described in drawings and painted. Here, in the West we only know about Mandarine and Cantonese food.
We are incredibly ignorant about China and since its clear now that they are officially THE world's economical power, it is in our interest to learn about their culture and way of life. One way to learn about China is to tune in the Chinese Channel, I recommend it, its facinating to watch and learn about their history, music, language, marcial arts, their ancient cities, museums its wonderful.
Yes, it was inevitable that as soon as the Chinese threw off the chains of Marxism, their economy would prosper. I am not sure whether they are cut out for democracy, but one doesn't need full democracy to be economically strong. Britain and Japan did very well without having full democracy. As long as you haven't got a Stalin or Mao tse Tung in charge, you can get things done.
That's right. You only have to see Lybia where under the Gadaffi government there is free education and health. Petrol, food & housing is heavily subsidised and the country doesn't have a foreign debt yet there is chaos and mayhem because the West has sold so well this rubbish: "Freedom" and "Democracy" slogan that people have believed the grass is greener at the other side of the fence. Little do they know that higher education it's so expensive many talented people will be wasted. There are moves at the moment to privatise the NHS and life in a lot of places in Britain is poor and dismal like Croydon, Hackney, Clapham, Brixton etc. There is a disafected youth who has no jobs, no education and no future. The answer is not to bring water cannons to quell the masses, the answer is to have an education for this people.
Most countries on the globe aren't cut out for democracy. The Arab spring, as they call it, will lead to nothing - just a new dictator taking over from the old one. The Russian spring went the same way.
I also seriously doubt that there will be any democracy in China. Actually, democracy is a pretty new development - we've only had it in Britain, even in theory, for about 90 years, and we still don't have it in practice.
Democracy the word comes from the Greek, although their slaves and women were not allowed to vote but democracy was invented in believe or not, in Baghdad. We vote here, so therefore we have democracy although the people who are elected might as well live in Tuscany or in China as they are completely disconnected about the real uneducated Britain of today.
Hi Maria
Yes, it has been tried over the centuries, e.g. the Greeks had it for city states, when just about all the citizens could be gathered in one place. We have only really had it here since women were given the vote, just after the First World War.
The theory is that if a government doesn't give people what they want, they can be thrown out and the other lot put in. So there is supposed to be an incentive to give people what they want, to avoid being thrown out. But governments know that they are bound to be thrown out every five or ten years anyway. So the parties have developed a whole range of policies which they stick to, despite the fact that they are unpopular policies. Hence throwing out a government because it won't introduce capital punishment is pointless, because the other party won't introduce it either. It's the political equivalent of price-fixing and cartels, where instead of free market competition, the companies get together behind the scenes, against the interests of the consumer.
Wow! that was well put. The only thing is that the real bosses are the oil companies and the death makers who sell arms in great quantities to the goverment who pay them handsomely with tax payers money, not from the rich of course but from the middle classes so the oil men and the death makers give money to both supposedly "contending" political parties a bit like betting on the only two horses who are going to run the race, so whoever wins, it doesn´t matter to them as the bet is on both horses. Its a charade, this is no democracy. I have to agree with you.
Well, polticians will take bribes from all and sundry. Any politician who refuses to take a bribe gets a reputation as a maverick. There are rumours about their mental stability, and they are sometimes ostracised.
But have pity on the poor MPs, their holidays have been interrupted by the rioting. They will gather in Parliament and hear Theresa May speak of "policing by consent." Quite what this means I don't know, but the mind can only boggle.
Ha,ha,ha, have pity? that's a joke right? politicians are the only ones in Britain who can take three months holidays, whilst everyone else has to work. They are out of touch. Normally people don't destroy their own environment unless there is a real anger and nothing to look forward to, and feel they don't have a stake in this society. In my opinion they should stop all these expensive wars and use the money to bring back free education. Haven't the merchants of death made enough money yet?
Hi Maria
But they do have a stake in society - their stake is to act as parasites on it, stealing from those who do all the work. Mps too are parasites, and probably get five or six months holiday once everything's added up.
This gang culture is imported Robert.
It wouldn't exist if the conditions were not there to develop. The youth centres have been shut-down so there, where they normally could have had a positive roll model to learn useful things for society its simply not there anymore because the parasites at the top have closed them down as well as cut down on education but there is plenty of money to spend on wars abroad plus the new one we have embarked on in Lybia. We do seem to have the money for those adventures but there is not money for the new cancer treatments at the NHS. These are young people who can me modelled like clay and are only the reflection of this society where the youngsters have been put aside and not taught any morals, nor civility, nor community values, there is a break-down in family ties as well, so they grow up with no values, no one to guide them in the right path. The goverment cannot continue to ignore this problem anymore, if they do so, they do it at their peril. It will be the rule of the mob who would be ruling the country and not them.
Hi Maria
I'm all for spending money on cancer treatments, and spending money on education for those who want to learn. Unfortunately these people don't, and they should not be in the same schools as the kids who do want to learn, disrupting their education and causing trouble for everyone.
This is true what you say. There has to be another type of school for this type of people where they don´t come from a good family and where its necessary to start from scratch. In my travels I met the head-master of a school in Liverpool and he told me that there were pupils in his school who had never eaten with a fork and knife. I asked him how did they eat? he told me, they only eat pizzas, burgers and sandwiches in front of the T.V. some had to be taught how to make tea because they didn't even know how to do this. Its an eye opener.
More Borstals could be a good solution and tougher sentences for those who commit crimes. Bring back hanging for murderers too.
Hi Maria
Well of course much of the problem can be put down to irresponsible parenting. There is no excuse for people having children they cannot look after. However, they know that society will step in and pick up the tab, if only for the sake of the children. Hence the naturally inadequate and feckless are breeding at an accelerating rate, and the composition of society is becoming unbalanced.
Yes, I read in the newspaper that a single woman had had 13 children by different men and the council had accomodated her and the kids in an enormous house plus granted permission to make the house even bigger. The house was £600,000 and she seemed to have all these kids as a sort of business to carry on getting more money from the social services. I think the child benefit should be abolished. Those who have children should make sure they can afford them before they have them, but it wouldn't surprise me if the homeless instead of using dogs to move your heart to give them money, they would use young children instead.
Hi Maria
In Victorian times, children would be hired out to a number of beggars who would appear with them in public and use them to induce passers-by to give them money.
There is a limit to how much people will be prepared to pay for other people's children. Many working people cannot now afford to have children themselves, or can only afford one, and yet they are being taxed to pay for other people's children.
Yes, that is very true. Which is very unfair the fact that working couples cannot afford to have children but their tax payments should be used for subsidising the feckless to reproduce like rats. This is where the system is wrong. I would say: Bring back the work-houses at least in there, they were taught civility, a sense of work and these were not as horrible as they are painted. Have you seen the photos of the people in the work houses? The children looked well fed with their immaculately white starched clothes and people who came out of there had a sense of work ethics because they were taught a trade as well, from being a carpenter and joiner to being a good cook, and those are arms in anyone´s arsenal to find a decent job anywhere.
Hi Maria
The trouble is, once the State gets involved, you can be sure that it will do a bad job. Over the last few years there have been numerous scandals of children being abused in State homes, and there have been cases where social workers visiting families in their own homes have failed to spot that children have been mistreated despite the signs being obvious. In fact, there used to be a joke : "Save a child - kill a social worker." I think what we need is more organizations like Barnardo's.
How does Barnardo's work ? What I was thinking was that those who cannot keep themselves instead of paying them for house benefit, child benefit and what not benefit, they should be put in an institution where they are taught a trade so that they can come out of there with a training to enter the work force. Also it would teach them a sense of community. Just handing them money like it is at the moment in the present system, only encourages the work shy. Why work when the money is handed down for nothing? There is no incentive there, is there? when you work you adquire a sense of achievement, a sense of pride in your work, self-estime, self reliant and confidence.
Hi Maria
Barnardo's Homes were set up in Victorian times to take in orphans, waifs and strays, house and feed them, and teach them a trade. Nowadays the education system seems to be geared very much towards the academic side, and we seem to be producing too many sociologists and not enough carpenters, plumbers, electricians, glaziers, roofers etc.
The powers that be seem to look down on carpenters etc, but not all academically-related work produces huge salaries, and some tradesmen earn a lot of money.
Barnardo houses, yes that's exactly the concept I had in mind. Have you noticed how the government has been importing people with skills that we already have in the U.K.? There was a massive protest from the unions not long ago, because the goverment gave a very important train construction project to a French company. Can you imagine that? When we have one right here. Of course, the contract was given during the Blair goverment who were nothing but traitors to the U.K. and its interests. There was nothing the present government can do about it now because the papers had all been signed by the disastrous last "New" Labour government. Apprenticeship should be brought back too. It is better than just theory. Talking with an experienced builder of many years, he told me that the kids coming out of university these days do not have a clue when they are in front of a real building project its not the same to have just theory than learning directly from experience. He was very prosperous with his own building company.
Another thing has been that at Uni, there have been too many subjects that are completely useless for finding a real job like: "media studies" and a host of other useless and nonesensical titles that in real life, do not land anyone a job, it only leaves the kids with a massive uni bill. Real subjects like science are being neglected. I once had this discussion with someone who called herself Limehouse whose mind lives for the most part in koo-coo-land.
Hi Maria
It saddens me that the sciences are languishing. I think the simple explanation might be, they are incredibly hard. They require extremely advanced mathematics, and the things they deal with are sometimes counter-intuitive. For instance, it's counter-intuitive that a lorry and a feather would land on the ground at the same time if dropped from the same height in a vacuum. And that is just 17th century science. Come forward to relativity and quantum mechanics, and the subject matter is mind-boggling.
There have been attempts to make science "sexy" or popular, but the TV shows produced, although entertaining and informative, still seem to have an "image" problem.
Well, but medicine and biology are advancing incredibly fast and in a way that is sometimes terrifying. Have you seen the new artificial beings that have been created in Cambridge Uni. Read it, it sounds as if it comes from a horror film. Going back to the riots Have you seen the latest? The man that the police shot dead came from a dangerous family of gangsters. His uncle was knifed to death in a turf war with the Yardies, a rival gang. These are not people worth going on a riot for. The police were quite brave to tackle him.
The riots...well, I look back on the L.A. Riots of 1992 after the verdict of the Rodney King beatings trail and aquittal, and I think that the people involved are not so much misinformed, but very much so misguided.
So many youth today, are misunderstood by society, and in their rebellion, they chose to actively demonstrate their disconetnt instead of actively sitting down with leaders, be they community, political, local cause and support agencies, or even mentoring groups, to voice their concerns and problems and solve them politically or through others.
The need of the few very rarely outweighs the need of the many, but those misguided souls only see their side of the issue.
In any trial by jury or judge, at least here in the US, it's the burded of the prosecutor to show beyond a reasonable doubt that they are correct and so, they have a burden. If innocent, it's on the STATE that they failed to show burden of proof..... When they fail, espicially in such a high profile case, it's not a given right to cause mayhem and insight violence.
While force to quell the riots is not an easy shoice to enact, as it in and of it's self will insite more violence, I think that the activation of The Mational Guard and eventually the Army and Marine Corps was a swift and just action by then Govenor Pete Wilson, who was facing overwhelming odds of voilence and vandilism, to help quelch the violence and restore order and peace to the area.
I watch video of the roits and turmoil in Britian of youths making trouble for such a quiet and courtious nation, and all I can see is their anger and frustration being misdirected at those who have nothing to do with policy. They are vandalizing and destroying their own neighborhoods, destroying others' peace and livelyhood, for only the sake of being heard.
If you want to make a statement, go to your policymakers, and voice your rage. ( Apolgies for not being literate on the goverment structure of England, I would def like to know HOW it's done, as it's important to know each type of goverment as not to offend their wway of life.
As far as China is concerned, as we all should be aware, they are nothing more to me as a bully on there playground.
Yes, they are a major political and economic power, I cannot see them having a justifiable impact on the front of Power Nations.
England, the US, France, and even Spain are some of the most powerful nations and ave been for decades, and China is playing Wannabe since the fall of the USSR. Where was China when we were fighting the North Vietnamese ?? They were helping them!! And look how that turned out.... While not a victory for the US/Allies, it was at least a show of force that WE won't just stand by while or friends are being pushed around.
With the new news that China has an Aircraft carrier, many people are all nervous that they will try to impose their dominance on smaller nations.... Not worried here.
Not only does England have on of the most robust Naval Programs ( with Allies the US) but a carrier can only get you so far. Without a dually robust support group, can a carrier be effective. Not to mention the Special Forces tactical operations that are attached to the Carrier Group ( Britain's the SAS along with her allies, and the US has our own Special Operations Forces) they are invalvaluable when you need to put feet on the ground in hostile territory.
While a Naval Blockade can do damage to ones county, they still have to worry that an airborne force could slip through the perimeter.
I gtues what I'm getting at is that although China MAY try and become a Naval superpower, it's going to take not only time, but also means beyond their current ways to rival Britian, the US, and even Frace to compete with the big dogs.
Politics....
Clever name for horse-and-pony show.
Our leaders will say what the masses want to say, but when it comes to the time of making good, they will bow to the special intrests groups.
Simple greed
Oh Hello Lad, is nice to hear your voice over here. Two different countries two different systems of policing and.. the cause for the riots was also different.
We were living in Calif. during the Rodney King beating and subsequent trial of the white policemen who were caught in camera beating and kicking Rodney King within an inch of his life by rough and cruel policemen, this footage was seen all over the U.S. and when the policemen went scott free, the riots followed. I was right there outside the court-room in Simi Valley as the public were not allowed inside, so I spoke with black people and they informed me: If the policemen go free and without a punishment there will be trouble in L.A. they also added that in the U.S. there was a law for white people where they get away with everything and another one for blacks where they were regularly stopped and searched by the police several times a day for no reason at all in their own neighbourhoods, even if they went down to their local shop and they were fed-up with these double standards so in the L.A. riots the reason was a racial matter. Rodney King was stopped, pulled out of his car and beaten up mercilessly by the L.A. police. The police claimed that Rodney was speeding, but in reality, the car Rodney was supposed to be "speeding" in, the speedometer of this type of car, doesn't reach the speed the cops were alleging he was doing. In this case, it was pure police brutality. The cops lied in court, yet they still went free and it took a riot to make a re-trial of the case. So this is a completely different story to what happened in London and the rest of the U.K. I will explain in a second post as this entry is getting too long.
Okay on the London riots, the suspected gangster whose death sparked the nationwide riots was the nephew of a notorious crime boss who once boasted his gang had 'more guns than the police.' It emerged yesterday that Mark Duggen's uncle was the late Desmond 'Dessie' Noonan, whose feared family are 'mayor players' in Manchester's underworld. And in a further indication of Duggan's gangland links, investigators said yesterday that at the time of his death he had a fully-loaded Italian-made handgun wrapped in a sock. Criminals often fire their weapons from inside a sock to avoid leaving forensic evidence and to catch cartridge cases. Duggan is said to have regularly visited Noonan in Manchester before the crime boss was stabbed to death in 2005 by a Jamaican enforcer working for the Yardie drug gangs at the age of 46.
The emerging picture of Duggan, 29, is at odds with his portrayal by friends and family as an innocent victim, quiet family man and respected member of the community. He was shot dead by police marksman in Tottenham, north of London 11 days ago. He had been stopped by undercover officers as he travelled in a minicab and confronted because they believed he was on his way to 'use the weapon' Rumours that he had been 'executed' fuelled the riots in the area last Saturday which spawned copycat violence and looting across the country. On Friday, the Independent Police Complaints Commission confirmed that Duggan's weapon - a BBM 'Bruni' pistol containing live rounds - was hidden in a spare sock, not one he was wearing. A dossier on the case has been compiled by detectives from Operation Triden, which investigates gun crime within London's black community. The files are said to outline Duggan's suspected links to crime gangs, alleged drug dealing and his ties to the Noonan family. Noonan's second wife Julie, 50, is the sister of Duggan's mother Pamela. Noonan, a 20 stone former nightclub bouncer who was one of 11 children whose names all begin with D, ran the family gang with three of his brothers - Domenyk, Damian and Derek. He and Domenyk were interviewed for a T.V. documentaryin 2005 called Gangster. In it, Noonan suggested the family were untouchables, saying: " We have a lot of strong loyal people around us. We will always have that. If they think they can take one of us, they are silly people. Very silly people". He also boasted:'I have bigger army than the police. We have more guns than the police'. During that T.V. documentary he hinted that he had been responsible for 27 murders.
Hi 17 and welcome.
About China, I think we should embrace it as a friend. The Spanish government certainly have done that. I saw Placido Domingo singing alongside a Chinese soprano, something to do with a Chinese love story sung in poetry related with the moon. The choreography was excellent, especially when the blue light was shinning on the shimmering custumes of the two friends. Also, the Spanish are selling much of their produce like: Rioja wines, Serrano hams, quality leather goods (hand-bags, shoes) and the high fashion designers like Zara have open up lots of shops in China which are very trendy over there. The Spanish government has even established a Cervantes Institute over there where the Chinese can learn to speak Spanish. There is definitely a cultural exchange between the two countries since the Chinese are very interested in European Art, literature, language, history and culture, so we should reciprocate and be interested in their millenary culture as well, which personally I find fascinating. Did you know that the clocks with the gears and the cogs were invented much earlier in China, some 600 years before it was invented in Europe? China has a culture that its really worth exploring and learning about. If we had the Chinese tough approach to crime, we wouldn't be in the total mess and moral collapse we are in right now. I see it as an excellent opportunity to learn from them and I view it all with a positive outlook and certainly not a threat as you see it lad. The more I learn about their culture, the more I like it.
Since Nixon opened up links to China in the early 70s, the country has gradually come out of its shell, and now that they are gradually shaking off communism, I'm sure they will make steady progress.
Steady progress? China is the wealthiest country on earth. There was a time when China was so wealthy and self sufficent that when European tradesmen would go to China to buy their products like silk, the Chinese emperor told them there wasn't anything China needed to trade with Europe that was not already made in China. It will come to that point again. Someone wrote: 'When China wakes up, the world will tremble' I find that the Chinese have a very generous nature. It was a shame when the French went there to ransack it and loot it, taking with them precious Ming vases and royal treasures, which the Chinese government is now gradually getting back with their new found wealth. The U.S. owes China trillions of dollars and China is being very patient in waiting to have this loan re-paid from the Americans. Robert, did you go and see the Chinese terracota warriors that were on display at the British Museum this year?
Hi Maria
No, I missed that. I think if there is one thing I would like to see, it would be the Great Wall, which is even visible from satellites orbiting the earth. When I was young, I liked the clourful clothes the Chinese were depicted as wearing in the story books, though of course only rich people would have worn those. It's the same with the ancient Greeks - we see the marvellous architecture, but the poor people's homes have not survived, and weren't meant to.
So do I. A few years ago I bought a red silk antique Japanese kimono, the embroidery is very beautiful. When I travel I use it as a dressing gown as its so lovely and elegant. One of these days, I shall use it as a back drop for one of my paintings. Some people hang them up on the walls as decoration. The colour is stunning. If there is one thing I would like to visit in China is 'The Forbiden City' where the Royal palaces are, that I would love to see.
Hi Maria
When I said steady progress, I suppose that was a sort of hope really. The fact is, I hope they make steady progress, because it would be bad for them to make rapid progress. The transition from an old-fashioned economy to a capitalist economy is a fraught business, and many challenges lie ahead of them. Have a look at what is happening in India at the moment, for an example.
But I think this change hasn't been overnight Robert it has been going on for at least a decade now. There is talk at the moment to replace the dollar as the standard currency for trade transactions and change it for a more stable currency so many countries have suggested it could be the Chinese currency although China is not jumping into it nor it seems too keen, even though it has the reserves to do it. At the moment, the Americans are talking about "controlling and containing China" over a dispute with Taiwan where the Chinese are not happy that the Americans have recently sold weapons to the Taiwanese government. Talking about financing the weapons industry did you read the newspaper 2 days ago? on the headlines it said the U.K. banks fund the deadly cluster-bomb Industry among these banks is the Royal Bank of Scotland, Lloyds TSB, Barclays and HSBC have all provided funding to the makers of cluster bombs, even as international opinion turns against a weapons system that is inherently indiscriminate and routinely maims or kills civilians. The Royal Bank of Scotland was bailed out by the tax payer and also Lloyds TSB. These two banks are using tax payers money. All I have to say, is that from today I will be cancelling my savings account with HSBC and look for another bank as to in addition to this, the bank is not giving me any interest anyway so why should they have the use of it for these evil deeds? Yet there has been no attempt by the Coalition Government to rein in banks and investment funds that continue to finance companies known to manufacture these deadly weapons of mass destruction despite a growing global ban outlawing the production and trade of the weapons.
Hi Maria
No, I missed that about the bombs, but the banks do what they like anyway, even the ones owned by the taxpayer.
There used to be a time when the banks were regarded as being very stodgy and over-cautious. The good side of that was that people at least felt confudent that their money was safe. The image of a bank manager with balding head, seated at his heavy oak desk, was reassuring. The bad side was that they were not lending, and many promising businesses had to go abroad for finance.
Now it seems the bamkers have turned to playing the casinos, and it's a win-win situation for them because the taxpayer picks up the losses.
Yes, I know.. I missed the days when the banks used to invest in railways and worthy projects, now, sadly a bank is a casino where they invest where there isn't even a secured collateral because they know very well that if they fail, their bank will be bailed out by the taxpayer and.. the failing banks that have been bailed out by us, are giving their staff millionaire bonuses that most certainly they don't deserve. This is happening here, in the U.S. in Ireland and in Greece but even worse there, where even the government has collapsed and it doesn't have any money to bail out their banks so the Greeks had to be bailed out by the European Union. Its a mess, a real gigantic mess and we still have to pay for it.
Robert, this will gladen your heart. Have you seen the latest BBC news? it says, that party political memberships seem to be in mortal decline only 1% which is lower than the memberships for the Society For The Protection Of Birds, The National Trust, Friends Of The Earth. You said you won't see this in your life time but it looks like you will.
Maria, that is excellent news! The only fly in the ointment is, if people aren't joining then they're not paying membership fees, which doesn't bother me, but it might spur the politicians into trying to raid the taxpayer to keep their parties going. I hope not!
Well, I suppose that will be the drawback or.. they may resort to ask their wealthy friends for sponsorship, those very same people who have their safe heavens abroad in Monaco or Jersey who avoid paying taxes like the rest of us and you know how it is, if you ask money to the seriously rich, they want something in return and the vicious circle of corruption repeats itself.
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